Thankz Susie,,,Coming from York PA originally and now living in North Carolina I can appreciate your pain as I would feel the same way if I still lived there. Roads there really do stay dirty and sloppy most of the time in the winter. Here the roads are pretty good except for the occasional black ice or freak winter storm and 90% of the time we have relatively mild temperatures,, (windows down), and high pressure with those cool temperatures really allows for full performance from the HEMI. Actually a great experience most of the winter. One of the great benefits living here have been realized since owning my Challenger. Please consider this an invitation moving here in the future for that stated reasoning. In the mean time I will post for you'all my escapades for your reading enjoyment while your vehicles are hibernating. LMAO,,, love this thread,,,,,please forgive by my enthusiasm.