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I have researched and drooled and dreamed of installing a supercharger on my 5.7L R/T aka., Black Beauty, for 4 years now. I was getting close, when Covid struck, and the country went through the shutdown and my dreams crashed on the rocks.

Because the prices of superchargers almost all of them increased in price over $1K+, which caused me to just give up the dream of getting one of them.

However something has changed, and that is doc440 has sold me his used Magnuson supercharger, which I now have on hand, so Black Beauty will get her supercharger.

I am writing this now as HemiMetal has asked me to document the installation, but I am very bad at remembering to take pictures along the way, so this will hopefully keep me in mind to do so?

There are things I am having to acquire besides the supercharger itself to be able to install, and since I have over 76,000 miles on my engine I am at the same time going to replace the water pump since I am dropping the coolant anyway.

Once I have everything I need, I'll begin.

AnyHoo Stay Tuned! Ry
 

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Some of what I have had to buy is the heater core routing hoses that come with the supercharger installation package as Dodge routed the stock heater core metal water tubes underneath the intake manifold. Which is a very nice and neat stock installation which many of you have probably never even noticed. That has to be changed for the supercharger to sit down properly on the engine those metal tubes have to go, requiring re-routing the hoses.

Which unfortunately will put them directly over my shorty headers, and automatically kicks in my OCD, and I am also covering them in that area with Design Engineering Fire Wrap, probably overkill, but better safe than sorry.
 

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You might want to go ahead and replace the Timing Chain while your at it.
Good thought but I had not planned on that, the water pump is outside of that entire timing chain assembly. If I was going to replace the oil pump, which I had considered going to a Hellcat oil pump, I would have done that as well. But I have to draw the monetary line somewhere and since it is a daily driver with no intentions of drag racing it, I'll be hoping for the best! Thanks Bill
 

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There goes your warranty! :p
 

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Trade it in and get a Scat Pack! :p Then trade the Scat Pack in for a Hellcat! :p


Someone is bound to say all that, at least I am joking when I say it!
 

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Good luck with the install!
 
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PM me your email address and I'll send you a copy of my installation manual. It is 3.8 mb in size.
 

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Right arm, farm out,RY. But could you slow down a little, I haven't even got mt limited slip and drive line installed yet.

Your a hard man to keep up with and will be worse with a super charger. Congratulations!:p(y)
 

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Congrats! Mine was a fun project for me. The manual is available on line. It is well documented and allowed me to easily do the install. Good luck!!
 

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PM me your email address and I'll send you a copy of my installation manual. It is 3.8 mb in size.
Thank You, but I already have it.
And trust me I have already installed it in my mind, many lost sleep nights going over it in my mind.
 

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I have had some sleepless time trying to figure out how to lower the supercharger down on the engine by myself, reason being I honestly wanted to do it myself, many told me I could not install my 3.09 Limited Slip Differential by myself, but I did. I have a friend that could help me but he has spinal problems as does my brother in law, and I would not risk them getting hurt, another is 100+ miles away. Honestly the exact time of lowering the supercharger on the engine I just don't know at this time as the heat here right now is unbelievably hot, 95 by 12 noon, heat index way above 100.

So planning wise this is how I'm going to do it.
1 Ton Capacity Foldable Shop Crane

The supercharger weighs maybe 70 ~ 80 lbs at the most so this El Cheapo 1 ton crane should get the job done? One problem solved, hopefully, which should allow me to do it without removing the hood?
 

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....or.....start your Kettle Bell training NOW!!

I just perused the instructions for a Magnuson TVS2300. My $0.02 - Pay special attention to lock-tite in steps 44 & 52!

"44. Use your fingers to press the prepared barb into the hole vacated by the passenger side hard line. Do not use any grease or lubricant on the O-ring as this will compromise the effect of the green Loctite. Allow the
Loctite on the barb to cure before disturbing.
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So if you have to wait 24hrs for the Lock-tite cure...DO IT!

I didn't wait the full time on the RTV gasket I made and, due to leaks, had to remove and re-install my Vortec! PITA!! Learn from my mistake. If you miss that one line, the instructions then go immediately to cutting a hose and attaching it to the barb.

But these look like well done instructions.

I hope you have access to a lift, there is a lot of working from underneath (Drilling crank pins, etc)!

Good luck with the install! It will be fun to watch your progress/results.
 

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The supercharger weighs maybe 70 ~ 80 lbs at the most so this El Cheapo 1 ton crane should get the job done?
Yes, 1 ton>80lbs. :p

Although the logisitics of strapping it up and lowering/removing straps will be fun. The hood could get in the way, potentially, depending on how close to the boom it is?
As far as the lift, my son bought one (when they had 20% off coupons), as well as an engine stand and removed a PT Cruiser Turbo engine from a car he wrecked. HF stuff works well enough for limited home use, and definitely the right price points for home use.
 

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Another major issue to resolve is tuning and when I was considering buying a brand new Magnuson they wanted me to send my PCM to HP tuners so they could unlock it and then they would have in the installation package an RTD Cable to install a pre-written HP tuners tune.

Which to me sucks! Because in the beginning the Magnuson was start up tuned using Diablo but at some point they switched to HP tuners. So I emailed them with my dilemma, which is I already have a PCM unlocked by Hemifever Tuning can that be used? No, you have to send in and go the HP tuners route, and if not doing it their way, I tossed the warranty? The Magnuson Warranty coverage and stipulations, is covered in their warranty agreement, you can check that yourself.

Email Quote from Magnuson:
The only tool that will flash the file we supply is an RTD cable by HP tuners. HP tuners prefers to start with a stock oem computer to unlock. I can't really speak on that since I don't know what they do. We provide a MOD number and the customer pays to ship the pcm to them to be unlocked.
So since my 5.7 is already out of warranty, and I can go through Hemifever tuning to get it tuned, that made buying a used supercharger a lot more attractive!

Before someone pops in saying how great HP Tuners is, back when I first was investigating my 5.7 tuning in the first place, HP Tuners were Chevy and Ford tuning, Mopar was not even covered back then, that is why I trust Hemifever tuning.
 

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....or.....start your Kettle Bell training NOW!!

I just perused the instructions for a Magnuson TVS2300. My $0.02 - Pay special attention to lock-tite in steps 44 & 52!

"44. Use your fingers to press the prepared barb into the hole vacated by the passenger side hard line. Do not use any grease or lubricant on the O-ring as this will compromise the effect of the green Loctite. Allow the
Loctite on the barb to cure before disturbing.
"

So if you have to wait 24hrs for the Lock-tite cure...DO IT!

I didn't wait the full time on the RTV gasket I made and, due to leaks, had to remove and re-install my Vortec! PITA!! Learn from my mistake. If you miss that one line, the instructions then go immediately to cutting a hose and attaching it to the barb.

But these look like well done instructions.

I hope you have access to a lift, there is a lot of working from underneath (Drilling crank pins, etc)!

Good luck with the install! It will be fun to watch your progress/results.
I bought those 2 aluminum water pump barbs from Steve White, cost $99.99 plus tax and shipping, I looked for the Gold Inlay, but there is none! I also was concerned about the green Loctite 680 actually holding and bonding, but it is definitely not a thread locker but a bonding adhesive. Thanks for the tip, I will allow plenty of bonding time.
 
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