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Doubt it... You'll get better cornering from an open differential. Traction control will take care of the rest. McLaren runs an open differential on all of their vehicles.
 

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Base Scat vs. base RT? Yes.

Base Scat vs. the 5.7 with the Performance Plus Package 20x9.5 and p275 tires and the Performance Handling Group (Basically the "Sport" suspension with Bilsteins and 4-piston Brembos) - No, due to the tires and basically the same suspension from what I've seen.

Scat + Dynamics package vs. the the 5.7 with the Performance Plus Package 20x9.5 and p275 tires and the Performance Handling Group (Basically the "Sport" suspension with Bilsteins and 4-piston Brembos) - I'm going to guess similar, but the Scat will have the 6-piston Brembos and stop better.

Scat Widebody vs.....yeah, nevermind.

What is your intended purpose with the car? Cones? Track? Daily driver? Both are decent handling, but the tires on both base cars are way too skinny and poor compounds in my opinion.

I've done lots of track time in other cars over the years - Corvettes, Mustangs, hot hatches, and I've driven some exotics and even a Formula Ford - all on tracks and autocrosses. Dead stock, my Scat handled much better on the regular roads than most of those. And those track cars all had wide wheels and tires swapped at the track.

My base Scat with just adding the p275 tires on the stock 20x9" wheels handles extremely well. I have zero interest in lowering it, but am pricing out strut bars to stiffen it a bit more. That is about all it needs to handle as well as I need it to.

Hope that helps.
 

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If road racing is what you're into, a sports car is what you want. The best handling that I've ever driven, is the C6 Corvette. I would have gotten a C6, but I'd be getting tickets left and right! No question about it.
 

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I live where I like to drive hard thru corners in the Blue Ridge Mountains. My track days are behind me. Have an R/T now. A bit too soft in the corners. Don't want to get into mod mode, so looking to replace it with a Scat Pack. The stock SP may do the trick if it comes with beefier sway bars. Not looking for an all-out performer in the twisties, and don't want a car that's sprung so hard it ruins daily commutes and long trips on the highway.
 

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I think the model and year affect handling. The Challenger will never be considered a good handling car. That said, I have a 17 T/A and they lowered that car from stock and beefed up the suspension. It handles better than my 12 R/T.
 

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The wide body would fit you well. However, I drive twist roads 45 miles round trip daily in my ‘18 base SP. with the 275 tires and the SP suspension, I love it. The SP sits lower than a base RT by quite a bit and is beefier by far IMO.

Honestly, I’m fine without any other mods - my comment on the strut bars is just bcuz I’ve always wondered how much better it could be for a dirt cheap upgrade. I have NO intention on lowering any more than stock.
 

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The WB is better in the turns, but I'm just not a fan of those "bubbled" fenders. Had they gone with stamped flare fenders, I'd be all over it. I want to purchase a C6 convertible, but my lady doesn't want to go back to getting in and out of a Corvette. She loves that the Challenger doesn't sit as low as our C4 did. The smoother ride and additional weight makes her feel safe while driving. She also loves the Uconnect 8.4 system; even with the Alpine speakers. She also loves the more spacious interior design. I have a few angles that I'm working-on... :cool:

I don't want to get rid of the Challenger... I want both! ;)
 

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...The Challenger will never be considered a good handling car....
I disagree, just a little bit.

I think this statement depends on the context. It can be debated that "A 2021 Challenger will never be considered a good handling car compared to same-class 2021 competitor offerings".

However, I think it is predominately true that "A 2021 Challenger handles far better than the top sports car offerings from 25 years ago".
 

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Well maybe in that context LOL. The Challenger was designed to go straight for a 1/4 mile, not carve canyons. It weighs too much and is too big to be considered a good handling car like a Mustang.
 

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Well maybe in that context LOL. The Challenger was designed to do straight for a 1/4 mile, not carve canyons. It weighs too much and is too big to be considered a good handling car like a Mustang.
 

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Well, I kind of think a Base 6.4L Scat Pack would do better than a 5.7L R/T in most aspects when it comes to road handling.
OK, I have 2010 R/T Classic with Open Diff.
I forget which magazine did a test between a Stock 5.7L R/T and an SRT8.
Brake fade and soft suspension were the detriment of the stock R/T.
Better suspension and braking were the plus for the SRT8.
That has too be true for the Scat Pack. SRT components in an R/T setting.

Am I wrong? I mean, where does that Not make sense?

I have done spirited driving on winding Ohio roads. I took on a stock Mustang while doing it. Yeah, I ate him up. It's knowing how to use what you have.
 

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I believe the limited edition 345 R/T 50th Anniversary has the same accoutrements as the SP, minus the 392 engine, of course. The 50th is fitted with the heavy duty (police) brakes, not Brembo.
 

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I've read in an online SP review that the base SP comes with Bilstein shocks and firmer rate springs than those on the R/T.

My recently dealer sent me this message about SP sway bars versus R/T sway bars: "they are different. the scat pack looks to be shorter and thicker doesn't give me a actual dimension on them but I got with parts and they are both way different than the R/T which would mean better cornering."

The above gives me reason to expect better cornering in the SP.
 

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The WB is better in the turns, but I'm just not a fan of those "bubbled" fenders. Had they gone with stamped flare fenders, I'd be all over it. I want to purchase a C6 convertible, but my lady doesn't want to go back to getting in and out of a Corvette. She loves that the Challenger doesn't sit as low as our C4 did. The smoother ride and additional weight makes her feel safe while driving. She also loves the Uconnect 8.4 system; even with the Alpine speakers. She also loves the more spacious interior design. I have a few angles that I'm working-on... :cool:

I don't want to get rid of the Challenger... I want both! ;)
I am not a Corvette or any GM guy by any means but, if I was going to get a Corvette it would be the C8 or nothing.
 

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The Limited Edition 50th Anniversary 345 R/T comes with upgraded suspension; including Bilstein shocks. It sits 1 inch lower as well. Definitely lower than my (now sold) 2016 R/T. View attachment 271856
are those the non adjustable bilsteins that were used in "Track Pack" cars? I was thinking about getting those for my 2015 R/T, I already added SRT springs to it.

Do they help your 60' times?
 
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