Finally joining the catch can club

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    There are no moving parts in the filters, odds of a piece of the media breaking off and being sucked into the intake are slim to none. The oil vapor enters a chamber holding the media, which the oil accumulates on and drips into the liquid chamber. All that is needed is one filter.
    And it's not a tiny amount of oil, in between oil changes, can be a couple of ounces.
     
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    There ain't nothing breaking off in mine. It's like a stainless steel wool scrubbie trapped inside a cage. It's not getting out.

    I have 2 catch cans. The one in my Charger is a Billet Technology can and in my Challenger I have a Speedlogix can. They both have a similar construction as below.

    SX-DC-CC-4.jpg

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    Looks like there is a large variety of aftermarket catch cans from $18.00 to $300 +.. not a very complex product. Anybody have any input on manufacturers or recommendations?
     
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    My Charger has a Billet Tech can.

    http://www.custombilletstore.net/Hemi_Oil_Catch_Can_p/20010.htm

    And my Challenger has a custom painted speedlogix can.

    www.ebay.com/product-p/sx-dc-cc-s.htm

    I didn't get the braided hoses for my Charger and I always regretted it. I rectified that with my Challenger. Seriously, whichever can you buy get the braided lines.
     
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    umm for some reason I can't make a link to the speedlogix can. It appears as an ebay link. Just replace the ebay dot com part with speedlogix store dot com with no spaces obviously.
     
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    Thanks. appreciate the link. Any recommendations on oil filters? Seems from what I've read the mopar ones are problematic. I have the scat pack pkg. I'm wondering if I need/ or should have a hi flow filter. I'm planning on using 5-30 since I live in Florida and was told 0-20 isn't sufficient protection for any engine.. usually use 10-30 on my other gas engines that have higher mileage.
     
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    A perfect way to destroy the engine. 0W20 oil goes in the 5.7 and 0W40 goes in the 6.4L end of story. You WILL end up with problems with the cam phasor mechanism with any other viscosity oil. These engines can be run across the Mohave desert at 120 Deg. F with no issues every day. Run the wrong oil, you could even void the warranty. Quit listening to BS from know-it-all's that seem to know more than the people who designed the engine.

    -John
     
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    My owners book list 5-40 for my 2011 SRT ???
     
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    You have a 6.1 Engine. The 6.4 did not come out until the 2012 Model year. Different oil spec.

    BTW... the "W" as in 0W20 means "Winter," not "Weight" It is the ability of an oil to flow at certain temperatures based on the oils viscosity index. Some 140W gear oils are as physically thin as 10W motor oils. It's all in the formulation.

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    Because your posting a link to someone who is not a vendor on here any longer,it will do the same thing if you try to link anything off facebook.
     
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    I have a BT catch can - no complaints - I installed it on my own with minimal trouble.

    I always follow the recommendations for the oil in regards to type and frequency of changes. I use Royal Purple across the board for oil, transmission and differential.
     
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    I thought it might be something like that but the billet tech link worked so I didn't put 2 and 2 together. What's up with that?

    As for oil.

    5.7 = 5 w20
    6.4 = 0 w40

    I'm currently using amsoil as my boss's son has a motocross sponsorship discount with them so I saved a ton of money.

    I used Mopar filters on both of my engines.

    5.7 = Mopar 5281090AB - Filter Engine Oil https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EIBLZ2S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_jZ6xjiZZPoONN

    6.4 = Genuine Mopar 5038041AA Oil Filter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006T08WXM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_MU4pGI6Z43CP4
     
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    Okay so first before I ask this question and get roasted I want everyone to know this is my first Dodge vehicle and still learning about the Challenger with the 6.4 Hemi. In regards to the catch can is this a mod that could cause issues with the warranty or since it is a "filter" would it be okay to do? Is it also necessary to install if you follow the owners manual for the type of oil that is supposed to be used? I have done some research and understand what the cans purpose is, but what I don't understand is why would the engine be designed like this from the factory and potentially cause issues down the road with the motor?
     
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    New to writing on forums... as you can see above.
    I had the same question, after researching and reading the forum I decided to purchase one. The article below makes a good explanation of why there not installed from factory and why there a good idea. Wouldn't think there could be any issues with the warranty since this actually improving the internal condition of the motor.. I can't see them fighting a warranty claim on something that's not boosting horsepower or changing engine dynamics.
    https://www.redline-motorworks.com/...n-oil-catch-can-work-and-why-is-it-beneficial
     
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    The catch can will not void your warranty. Consider it additional protection for your prized vehicle, an upgrade to the PCV system if you will. Above mentioned article is pretty good. There are a couple more articles on this site that go in to more detail as well. You will have to browse a while to find them as I can not point you in the right direction off hand. Maybe someone will chime in with those details.
     
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    Good read there thanks for that. In doing a little more digging after
    reading that article it appears that the vast majority of drivers that drive their cars on a daily basis and tack on 15K or more a year in mileage use the catch can. Mine would be lucky to see 5K in a year as it is more of a toy for me than a daily cruiser. So maybe it might not be worth it if I'm not driving the car every day. I've had it two weeks already and I'm at 168 miles with most of that being the drive from the dealership the day I brought it home.
     
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    I only have 12K on mine in two years, but trust me, I have emptied enough oil in that time period to validate use of a catch can. I would not cheap out of peace of mind. No offense intended, just my opinion.
     
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    This is what the Throttle body looks like when not using a catch can after 30K miles. Many police departments as well as State Police now use the catch cans. You can see the plate is completely oil and carbon fouled.

    TB.jpg

    The entire inside of the intake manifold will also look like this.
    -John
     
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    No offense at all I appreciate the input as this is all totally new to me in owning a car like this so I dont want to screw anything up. By learning as much as I can from other owners on here and and asking questions helps me.
     
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