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Just got off the phone with my dealer. I had called to verify if the order banks were open. He said he had bad news: his dealer rep told him that they were not going to get any hellcats and that Dodge was going to limit production to only 500.

I have been unable to verify this. Last I had heard was Ralph saying that they were going to build as many as were ordered.

He also told me to come down and place an order in my name as you never know what could happen. Wish me luck.
 

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Just got off the phone with my local dealer's Sales manager. I have been in there a couple times a week so they know I am wanting to order as soon as they open up the ordering banks.

He said Chrysler sent an advisory to all dealers yesterday saying Hellcats could not be ordered this month but that they we planning to make 3,000 2015's and they would be on an allocation basis. He has printed out a copy of that email and is supposed to give me a copy. I will update everyone once I get down there later today to pick it up.
 

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I hope to see Ralph at Carlisle this weekend. Maybe we can shake some good info from him about this.

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Inquiring minds want to know John.
 

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Just got off the phone with my local dealer's Sales manager. I have been in there a couple times a week so they know I am wanting to order as soon as they open up the ordering banks.

He said Chrysler sent an advisory to all dealers yesterday saying Hellcats could not be ordered this month but that they we planning to make 3,000 2015's and they would be on an allocation basis. He has printed out a copy of that email and is supposed to give me a copy. I will update everyone once I get down there later today to pick it up.

Just got back from my dealer and he verified the 3000 units for this year. He said that although they are a registered SRT dealer that they will not be able to order any. He also stated that there are only going to be 25 Hellcats slated for the Baltimore area.

The Hellcat wasn't even on the order site yet. He is going to keep trying and is going to place an order in my name to see if I can get one that way.

Guess Ralph had bad information when he stated in an interview that they were going to build as many as were ordered.
 

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Must be nice to have the money to cover whatever the price might be.

A :smileup: for that.
 

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Order window to open on the Hellcat August 8 per allpar.
 

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Order window to open on the Hellcat August 8 per allpar.
I guess since they are not going to make as many as originally thought, it kind of makes sense to move the date back. Sucks though, I was really excited and now I have to wait another month.:sad:
 

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I guess I am not understanding the reason for only making 3,000. Why don't they just make as many as people order. Make it an order only and let those that can afford and want to buy them, do so. Aren't they in the business to make money? Why this decision??
 

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I thought about purchasing one, but after talking to Josh at HHP it makes a lot more since to take the money and put it into my SRT8. The difference of what I can sell my 2012 for and what the hellcat cost, I can upgrade the driveline, forge the bottom end and supercharge it for less. So leaning that direction at the moment.
 

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I thought about purchasing one, but after talking to Josh at HHP it makes a lot more since to take the money and put it into my SRT8. The difference of what I can sell my 2012 for and what the hellcat cost, I can upgrade the driveline, forge the bottom end and supercharge it for less. So leaning that direction at the moment.
That's what I said. I love my car so why not make it my own and I can get close enough to what I will ever need for a lot less money....but damn I'd love to have a hellcat!! That car just looks sweet let alone the power.
 

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Here's my 2 cents on this situation, and sorry if I offend anyone. I want a hellcat just as much as the next guy.

Just like the first edition challengers I suspect they will make these hellcats with a badge number from 0-3000, and just like the 08 models for sale on ebay or any other place, including, on the "z" noone cares if your car is number 2 or 2999. No real value will be added to your car provided it's not the first or last one off the assembly line. Limiting production is just a play at making more money...selling to those exclusive few who will pay more than what the car is worth just to have the "exclusivity" of owning a hellcat. The dealers love the idea as well because they're not just going to order a car for you unless you're willing to pay them extra as well. Dodge wins. Dealer wins. Mopar fanatic loses. In model year 2016 we will have unlimited production without a # badge just as we did in '09. With current lackluster sales of a non convertible viper, whose main competition is the z06, and the new internal competition of the hellcat I suspect "Dodge" is trying to find the more lucrative model to produce. Either that or they are using the supposed profits of the "hellcat" to continue to fund the "flagship" viper.
In my circle of mopar enthusiasts there's already been a turn from the viper, as I have talked to a friend whose customer has several vipers (over ten), but is now looking at the "hellcat" for the next purchase. Regardless of the price, Dodge/Fiat/SRT is playing a waiting game with consumers, stringing us along, to try and find a direction for the company that produces the most.profit. They have the production figures (probably 60-65000), but my guess is they are feeling the market and these forums to try and see just how willing some people are to pay for this thing. If we say "i'd buy it for 80k or 90k" that's what they'll charge. It's the same thing they were doing with the hp numbers. Sure, I saw the "easter egg" as well that people were talking about with hp of 707 but there's speculation about the price being $70's7's00 or something like that. I would guess more likely the $10:10 00 instead of thinking its the 1/4 mile time.

However, back down to earth, If they can produce a streetable muscle car and make more money doing so, it wouldn't surprise me if they started selling order only vipers and unlimited hellcats. The problem I think lies in that SRT stuff has and probably always will be overpriced. I think my 09 loaded srt was around 45-47000 when new. I could have bought a loaded camaro for several thousand less. I'm guess the same will happen here. Srt's are not cheap and truthfully will not be surprised to see this car go for 80000. That's more than a z28/zl1/gt500 by several thousand, but that's also the business plan of dodge for several years. They have a mopar following, me included, and despite their price gouging I suspect they are counting on the enthusiasts to "fork" over more and more money for 707hp, and potentially bring some camaro and stang guys over for the notoriety of owning the "top dog" on the street. Unfortunately, for the rest of us who are looking at paying off our mortgages before the government decides to turn our country into a socialist dictatorship, buying a "hellcat" will be out of the question. Besides Ralph even stated that its not for "everyone"..."overpriced" I think is what he meant to say.

I'd love to own one of these "hellcats" but after actually convincing my wife that it could be and "investment" I've decided against one. Whether it's 70-100000 we are talking way to much money to spend on something that wont appreciate for another 25-30 years. Additionally, we will see in about 4 years a group of "first edition" hellcats on ebay for about 2/3 the price of a new one with very few miles on them. Case and point look on there now for the 08 first edition srts and see how much value they have kept. Maybe, I'll look into one then.

Also, the people that can afford these cars don't normally make them daily drivers or track cars. Look at your typical viper owner...retirement age and well to do. It probably wont be there primary mode of transportation. Probably a lexus or something.... Besides I'm also guessing the streetability of this car with 707hp will be horrible even with the suspension upgrades. That's why there's a black key. People won't want to drive it normally with the red key. That's what SRT is even trying to tell you. The street manners of this car stink. However, if you are the 1 percent of people who can afford it, and the 1 percent of those people who can actually drive a car safely with that much power and 1 percent of those people who will use that much power...then I salute you. I envy your situation, because I've only got about 500hp now and I have problems finding a place to safely display it's prowess, but I can't imagine tearing up a brand new car at the dragstrip, but that's just me.

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Thanks for the detailed perspective. I think you gave me a good answer to my question about their limited production number of 3,000.
 

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3000 for now maybe, just wait till they start seeing cha-ching as they roll off the assembly line and decide to pump out more since they are already cranking them out.
 

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3000 for now maybe, just wait till they start seeing cha-ching as they roll off the assembly line and decide to pump out more since they are already cranking them out.
Am I the only one who's a little scared at the above thought? I sure hope not too many 707 HP Hellcat's end up in the hands of inexperienced or aging-skills drivers :wow:.
 

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Am I the only one who's a little scared at the above thought? I sure hope not too many 707 HP Hellcat's end up in the hands of inexperienced or aging-skills drivers :wow:.
That is something I've been wondering about too. Seems I remember at one point to buy a Viper you where required by Chrysler to complete some kind of driving school they had set up. Maybe this was just something I heard that wasn't true but I was wondering if this would also be the case with the Hellcat.:4-dontknow:
 

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I would be surprised to see the numbers exceed 3000 for this next model year. The exclusivity of a model is diminished once they are "mainstream." Now, once the initial sales are produced and the sticker shock has worn off then I could see production ramp up in 2016. However, this "limited production" thing is very much like the typical thing Dodge/Chrysler/Fiat/SRT has been doing. For example, there are the limited 08 productions, and the furious fuschia #'d cars, limited production colors like GWE and B5 blue (which is making a comeback for the hellcat), the toxic orange, and kowalski editions and I'm sure to have missed some others as well. I haven't even talked about the viper business plan (SRT)...they make so many "limited production" models (only 10 anodized carbon time attack vipers for example) that every model is "limited." Then they come out with another model and only make a few of those, and on and on it goes. That will be the continued plan with the hellcat. Limited production the first year. Then subsequent years will produce variants such as an ACR Hellcat or something like that to keep interests up. As stated in my first post in this thread, we can expect that only the premiums buyer will be able to attain the truly "valueable" collector cars from this first run, as the number 1 car will likely be sold at Barrett/Jackson for over a million and the last will probably go to Jay Leno or someone with "pull" at Dodge. I mean if you have a first edition challenger and you tell someone "I've got #238" would it matter if it was number "675?" They do the same thing over and over again...high pricing, limited production, paint colors, special editions. It's all marketing and if they can get people thinking they are gonna miss out on something well then they may be able to sucker them into paying more for it. We just need to be aware that just because they state there will be only 3000 built that they are trying to play to the market. Eventually, they will have a problem selling hellcats once the hype goes away and competition catches up and then we will see things like a "core" hellcats going for 3000 to 5000 less. Again..just my 2 cents.
 

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After reading the above 2 posts about the exclusivity and collectability, I must agree. However, I think that the excitement generated about the Hellcat at the present time have 95 percent to do with the overall platform and of course, the magic number of 707!

Right now, I like so many others here can just dream. No way I can afford a new one on retirement salary.
 
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