more affordable oil catch can options?

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  1. SteveC-SRT

    SteveC-SRT New Member

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    im wanting to buy a catch can for my 11 srt. im wanting all black can, black fittings, and braided lines. but these options are bringing me up to and over $200. am i forced to shell out that kind of cash? or can someone point me in the direction of what im looking for with a more reasonable pricing available? 200+ seems high for some hose, and a aluminum can (more or less)
    any info would be appreciated
     
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    Keep in mind that a proper catch can has media and baffles inside to actually separate oil, and isn't just a "can". The eBay special/Chinesium models can be retrofitted with things like baffles and steel wool to create a similar function, but (opinion warning), I'll play the "buy once, cry once" game with my new car.

    Given the option set you want, you're also being hit with the braided hose tax, and the anodizing tax. Neither is really cheap, but both provide a great aesthetic feel. You could find some slip over braiding to dress up the rubber hoses that come with the kits, but that's your call.

    FWIW, ADD W1 makes an affordable can that I haven't seen mentioned in the short time I've been on the Challenger sites.
     
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    On my 3 other vehicles that I don't care about the way things look under the hood, I just use a air/oil & water separator for a compressor. They cost about $30 at most parts stores or off Amazon. Matter of fact, I think they do a better job than the fancy Speedlogix one I put on the Challenger.
    I just took this picture of one on the trunk lid of another Challenger owned by a friend. It is sleeping in my garage for the winter. I'm going to install it today because we have a nice warm day here in the 50's. It's going to be installed over by the washer fluid bottle and will be nearly invisible anyway. He don't care what it looks like because he believes in function over form. It's also got large 5/8" fittings. No problem with air flow.
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    You get what you pay for...

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    I can't even figure out what the hell that thing is. If it is supposed to be a catch can, why would it have a breather element on it?

    Speaking of getting what you pay for, A compressor air/water/oil separator works far better than a catch can. Car painters trusted them for nearly a century to keep microscopic particles out of the air stream before more sophisticated air dryers came out during the last 20 years. I did some show quality paint jobs with the separator in the picture I showed. I would NEVER trust a regular catch can to do the same.

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    I air brushed a lot back in the early eighties and always would cut the airline to the airbrush and installed a separator. It would pick up any particulate matter, and compressors have a bad habit of developing water condensation also. It separated the water as well.

    The separator that John posted is better, much better then a catch can.
     
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    Just start off with the basic catch can first. You can add the other parts later. That way your wallet is not taking a big hit all at once. Feels less painful when you don't do it all at once.
     
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    I never understood people putting vented cans on sealed crankcase systems.

    I've used everything from fuel filters to "expensive" cans on multiple cars, and never thought to use the compressor can you posted. Good/cheap tip. I won't put it on this car, but maybe on the next beater build!
     
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    You dont need braided hoses. That saves you $75.
     
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    I don't need them, but like the look
     
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    I don't think the engine will run properly if you open the sealed system, as I remember when I had a defective PVC valve. Way back when, yes they were open systems.
     
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    The engine will run fine
    The key is open elements are almost a must have on blown applications
    The crank case pressure can get overwhelming for the stock pcm system I believe

    I have had great results moving some of those builds to open elements
     
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    I may have just lucked out. I googled catch cans for the 6.4
    Usually I just skip the suggested recommendations from Google at the very top. You know, the sponsored results.
    Well there were about 6 different catch cans here. I clicked on one that was made by upr, through ebay. It was a polished catch can. Had the braided lines like I had wanted, a z mounting bracket too. They wanted $124 for it brand new. I scrolled down to the similar items part, and found the black catch can. Same one through upr, just black, still had braided lines, z bracket, bafflings, the whole 9 yards. Still $124. So I jumped over to upr's website. They wanted 140+ there plus I had to pay 50 for the braided lines. So I jumped on the one on eBay. Went though their feedback, and it seems legit.
    I'll know when I physically receive this catch can. But I have my fingers crossed.
     
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    Check eBay, Craigslist, or even here in the Buy/Sell/Trade forum. Someone is always looking to sell their catchcan because they're either selling their Challenger, or because they're upgrading to a different model Challenger. I once sold a new one on this forum for $80 because I decided I wanted a different model catch can.
     
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    I had been stalking the for sale section for a while now. Not much been put up for sale recently
     
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    Got my all blacked out upr catch can today. Very nice piece! Can't wait to start feeling better (the flu bug) and to warm up a hair, so I can install it
     
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