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Hello everyone! Quick backstory. Last year I lost my Chally in an accident. A 2017 Granite RT auto I called Rex. It was pretty sad. Had it since 2017. I had purchased it brand new. I remember driving it off the lot. It was my ride for life. It was a beauty. :cry:
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Anyway. I decided to move on to a Toyota and while it saves more gas, it’s just not the same. So I’m in the market for a new Challenger! This being the last year they’re making them, it’s pretty crucial. What I really need to decide on is whether to buy another RT or say to hell with it and buy a Scat Pack. What do you all think?

Would a Scat Pack be more worth it?
How much of a difference would I feel it driving wise compared to the RT?
Has there been any major changes to the RT since the 2017 models?

Thanks!
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This is just my opinion but I have a lifetime of driving and owning some of the fastest cars out there American and European and the Scat/Shaker/T/A moniker is more show and less go than anything again else but that is just my opinion.
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Not only is the Challenger perhaps the most attractive muscle car in 30+ years, it's one of the most attractive cars in its price range and I'd even say it's more attractive than 90% of modern cars in any price range. Further, it offers a very good build quality in general, and in its price point and class it's among the quickest and fastest. Taking the 392, there's not a lot of cars that can actually beat it in quickness or speed. I bet there's only a handful of production cars in my entire zip code that would be demonstrably faster, and you'd probably have to get into big money or mods to make that happen.
Posted numbers for the 1970 440 6 pack legendary car, are slightly slower than a 392. But the 392 is far more practical, fuel efficient, handles better, and is worlds safer.

The 392 is still a useful car with decent fuel economy, rather than a gas monster made for sprints. Pre- 1975, it would have taken a massive engine and probably mods, a car impractical for the streets, or sportscars and supercars to post 392 quickness and speed. Almost nothing outside of racecars or supercars could perform 392 numbers from 75 to 2010. So in the last decade, it's again down to very light track cars, racecars, and supercars or high end luxury cars and now EVs.

"All show and no go" Really?
So I'm not really sure what you're comparing it to. Supercars? Mythical cars? EVs? Cars costing twice as much?
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SP by a mile. By ten miles actually. Dont cheap out, the 392 is a ton more fun. Yes it drives differently, sounds better, feels better. Do yourself a favor and drive one, you won’t ever look back.
Just a reminder folks that these types of cars now are stolen 5x more than the average car. Keep'em locked up when parked and watch around you when your at stoplights. The 392 IS the engine that gets the looks. The SRT-392 HEMI-big block is sexier than the Hellkat
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LOL, good luck! I just went through this, and at the end of the day, I went with the best deal I could find on the cars, versus similar cars for sale. It wound up being a 2010 SRT8 with low miles, was a good deal at 4 or 5 grand cheaper than the comparables. It left me with 15K still in my budget that I will probably use to add power so I have more than others, less than some, but definetely happy.
As quoted from the movie the Accountant, "Make a Decision!" Ry
That's also Kevin O'Leary's favorite exhortation on Shark Tank
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Just a reminder folks that these types of cars now are stolen 5x more than the average car. Keep'em locked up when parked and watch around you when your at stoplights. The 392 IS the engine that gets the looks. The SRT-392 HEMI-big block is sexier than the Hellkat
You are sooo right! It's why I never leave my Scat Pack out of my sight when I drive it (it's not my DD). And I park it like this at night and store my key fob in a Faraday case!

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I've had a few really nice cars over the years. 73 Firebird Formula, 79 Trans Am (Wish I still had that ride), 85 Z-28, 80 Vette, 10 Vette Grand Sport and now my 19 Scat Pack Wide Body.

This ride is on my top 2 list along with the Trans Am. The Trans Am was slow but it sure was pretty. Black and gold, 4 speed with t-tops.

My 19 Scatty on the other hand is an absolute animal. Looks outstanding as well. Love it!!

That being said, I have an 18 Ram pickup with the 5.7 and the truck is pretty fast. I'd imagine an RT with the 5.7 would go pretty good too!

If you can find one I'd go with the Scat Pack, every time. If you can't I'm sure you'd be happy with the RT.

Good luck.
I've had a few really nice cars over the years. 73 Firebird Formula, 79 Trans Am (Wish I still had that ride), 85 Z-28, 80 Vette, 10 Vette Grand Sport and now my 19 Scat Pack Wide Body. This ride is on my top 2 list along with the Trans Am. The Trans Am was slow but it sure was pretty. Black and gold, 4 speed with t-tops. My 19 Scatty on the other hand is an absolute animal. Looks outstanding as well. Love it!!

That being said, I have an 18 Ram pickup with the 5.7 and the truck is pretty fast. I'd imagine an RT with the 5.7 would go pretty good too!

If you can find one I'd go with the Scat Pack, every time. If you can't I'm sure you'd be happy with the RT.

Good luck.
in 1971 Chrysler rated the 426 Hemi both Gross and Net H.P. Gross 425, Net 350. The 5.7L is 372 or 375 Net depending on transmission. A V6 Challenger has a higher Net rating than a 340 Gross. A Scat rating of 485 Net would seem like a lot, except for the Hellcat crushing it. The 6.1L was 425 Net which was a 426 Gross rating. Just some fun with numbers. Chevy had a car rated at 450 gross that could not hold a candle to these cars.
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OP: Thanks to everyone for chiming in! I think I want a Scat Pack. They are indeed getting harder to find on dealer lots. Not seeing very many new ones in stock for miles and miles, around my area. I live in Northern California go figure. In the Bay area. Think I wanna go test drive one first. After five years of driving an R/T, I'm wondering how that first Scat Pack drive will feel like.

Driving my R/T never became old. Every day I would start it up, it sounded like the first day, every day. The sound and feel of the engine never gets old. Sure it wasn't the fastest model or fastest car out there, and had the dreaded MDS system lol. But it didn't need to be the fastest. It was loud even with the stock exhaust. And it was an eye catcher. Now some almost 6 years later, I think I'm ready to upgrade. At least before they go away completely. It feels like the end of an era for the muscle car in general, now that even Chevy has announced they're getting out of the V8 game. Sad stuff.
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OP: Thanks to everyone for chiming in! I think I want a Scat Pack. They are indeed getting harder to find on dealer lots. Not seeing very many new ones in stock for miles and miles, around my area. I live in Northern California go figure. In the Bay area. Think I wanna go test drive one first. After five years of driving an R/T, I'm wondering how that first Scat Pack drive will feel like.

Driving my R/T never became old. Every day I would start it up, it sounded like the first day, every day. The sound and feel of the engine never gets old. Sure it wasn't the fastest model or fastest car out there, and had the dreaded MDS system lol. But it didn't need to be the fastest. It was loud even with the stock exhaust. And it was an eye catcher. Now some almost 6 years later, I think I'm ready to upgrade. At least before they go away completely. It feels like the end of an era for the muscle car in general, now that even Chevy has announced they're getting out of the V8 game. Sad stuff.
Excellent decision. IMHO. Please post up how your search and purchase goes. Good luck! (y)
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I traded my R/T in 6 Months ago for a 392 Shaker mostly because I knew the end was near for the Challengers and Chargers. Not a great idea. For one thing the 392 from the seat of the pants feel is just not that much faster. Yeah I think the RT is limited to 150 or so and the 392 will do around 180 but realistic who drives that fast? and where in the USA are you going to do that? Also maybe you will cut a few ticks of the 60 time and the 1/4 mile maybe but again do you do that on regular basis? The one factor that sticks out the most is mpg as in 14mpg average for the 392 and that is mixed city and hi-way. If just city single digits. Insurance I don't know about I am old and have a driveway full of cars and I am constantly buying and selling cars so it pretty much stays the same but my personal property tax went up after purchase. To me the pros of owning a 392 over the 345 is just not there. This is just my opinion but I have a lifetime of driving and owning some of the fastest cars out there American and European and the Scat/Shaker/T/A moniker is more show and less go than anything again else but that is just my opinion.
how low does your gas mileage get just driving city? You said single digits, are we talking 9mpg?
I went from an RT to a Scat. For me it's a let down. Because of most opinions here I jumped up to the Scat and was expecting a lot more. It's NOT miles ahead of the RT. I feel like I burned 10 grand. The Scat is better, but not justifiably so. And you know what they say about opinions. I'm not giving you mine, just sharing my experience. You need to drive both before you buy or else you're just not gonna know til it arrives. I wish you the best of luck and hope you're happy with whatever you decide.
im on the fence right now too about trading in my 2019 RT m6 for a scatpack, dont know if I should do it or not. ive test driven a 2020 scatpack and a 2018 T/A 392 and it pulls harder but its not night and day. when i got back into my RT it wasn't a super drastic difference between the two cars, but I am somewhat concerned about "missing out" considering people on these forums shit on the R/T all the time
im on the fence right now too about trading in my 2019 RT m6 for a scatpack, dont know if I should do it or not. ive test driven a 2020 scatpack and a 2018 T/A 392 and it pulls harder but its not night and day. when i got back into my RT it wasn't a super drastic difference between the two cars, but I am somewhat concerned about "missing out" considering people on these forums shit on the R/T all the time
I traded my 15 RT charger for a 22 Scat challenger and to me the difference is drastic
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I traded my 15 RT charger for a 22 Scat challenger and to me the difference is drastic
did you have an automatic 2015 charger and went to an automatic 22 scatpack?
im on the fence right now too about trading in my 2019 RT m6 for a scatpack, dont know if I should do it or not. ive test driven a 2020 scatpack and a 2018 T/A 392 and it pulls harder but its not night and day. when i got back into my RT it wasn't a super drastic difference between the two cars, but I am somewhat concerned about "missing out" considering people on these forums shit on the R/T all the time
Go over to a Hellcat forum and see how the Scat Pack gets you know what on... Then the Hellcats get the same from the owners of RE. And the soon to be owners of the 170 will diss all the REs...

It never ends.

Buy the car you want to drive not what you think will get you the most attaboys or the least amount of dissin' from owners of other cars.
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I really like the rt package, and the pricetag that comes with it. That being said, except for my run-around s500 I mod the crap outta every vehicle I get my hands on. So spending a bunch on stuff I was gonna tear out later anyway doesn't really make sense. If I were a guy that was just going to buy something and leave it well enough alone or tinker with it a lil bit. I would look at the hellcat option. I was really impressed with those as far as what you get for your money
I've driven a couple scat packs as well and while they definitely are "more" of everything. I wasn't really like "wow! this is way better"
Buy the car you want to drive not what you think will get you the most attaboys or the least amount of dissin' from owners of other cars.
Truth!
Go over to a Hellcat forum and see how the Scat Pack gets you know what on... Then the Hellcats get the same from the owners of RE. And the soon to be owners of the 170 will diss all the REs...

It never ends.

Buy the car you want to drive not what you think will get you the most attaboys or the least amount of dissin' from owners of other cars.
you're not wrong about this. for me its the fear of missing out on the extra "fun factor". on the forum here and on challengertalk, people talk about scatpack as a night and day difference over the RT. I've test driven three of them now and I wouldn't say this is true. it is faster than the RT and pulls a little harder but when I get back into the RT after the test drive I'm not like this is a piece of crap. I don't know why people always have to be hyperbolic.

The way I see it is the upside of the scatpack is the extra torque pull when gunning it.

The downsides are:

Doesn't have the same exhaust note as the RT
Eats more gas

Definitely a tough decision, there are a lot of things I like about the RT. I also like the idea of having more power if I want to use it as well so its not an easy decision
I really like the rt package, and the pricetag that comes with it. That being said, except for my run-around s500 I mod the crap outta every vehicle I get my hands on. So spending a bunch on stuff I was gonna tear out later anyway doesn't really make sense. If I were a guy that was just going to buy something and leave it well enough alone or tinker with it a lil bit. I would look at the hellcat option. I was really impressed with those as far as what you get for your money
I've driven a couple scat packs as well and while they definitely are "more" of everything. I wasn't really like "wow! this is way better"
I agree, they are better but not HOLY SHIT i need to run out and sell my RT right now. Like I just mentioned in the reply above, people on these forums make it sound like the RT is complete garbage and the scatpack is the only way to go
I don’t think people say the RT is garbage, still a hemi. But the extra 110 horsepower in the scat is a lot more and it’s definitely noticeable. At the end of the day get what you want and what makes sense for you. That’s why I traded my RT for a scat.
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Back when I bought my 2016 SRT 392, I drove an RT and the SRT back-to-back. They were simply no comparison. The increase in torque and power was immediately noticeable and very profound

That is not to bag on the RT certainly not meant to at least. But in my mind there was no comparison and the SRT 392 was easily worth the extra money.
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