[Maxedwell]

This is not as straightforward as it seems since i Have a mod - Hurst shifter added by previous owner. Car shifts hard into 2nd when engine/tranny is cold and I have to baby it by shifting into neutral first. Speed shifting in a race would be a lot of grinding! Car only has 26k. On my previous RT, with a 6 speed and stock shifter, there was a factory warrantied fix - better grease. Do you think the dealership would in any way blame the Hurst shifter and charge me for the fix? Thanks!

 

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well they could try but just jog their memory and ask them if it also applies to the hurst edition challenger that had the shifter as stock.also most 6 speeds have issues with 2nd gear when there cold

 

[cdahl383]

My car will grind or nibble going into 2nd and sometimes 3rd when it's first started and still cold, especially in the winter. I usually shift very easy and slow for the first 5-10 minutes of driving. I also shift into neutral first, then into second or third gear when it's cold. After about 5-10 minutes of drive time, then I can hammer on it and it shifts smooth.

The input shaft grease likely has no bearing on it grinding/nibbling when cold, it's just the fluid needs to be heated up in the trans most likely. The input shaft grease generally causes the shifter to "stick" either when parked or when trying to downshift, but it shouldn't cause any grinding as that's just the gears meshing together/synchros, etc.

Does it continue to grind once it's warmed up or only when it's cold and first started?

 

[TheOldGuy]

My car will grind or nibble going into 2nd and sometimes 3rd when it's first started and still cold, especially in the winter. I usually shift very easy and slow for the first 5-10 minutes of driving. I also shift into neutral first, then into second or third gear when it's cold. After about 5-10 minutes of drive time, then I can hammer on it and it shifts smooth.

The input shaft grease likely has no bearing on it grinding/nibbling when cold, it's just the fluid needs to be heated up in the trans most likely. The input shaft grease generally causes the shifter to "stick" either when parked or when trying to downshift, but it shouldn't cause any grinding as that's just the gears meshing together/synchros, etc.

Does it continue to grind once it's warmed up or only when it's cold and first started?

A lot of shifting issues caused by clutch drag have been coming back for a second go-around because careless mechanics did not do the job properly in the first place. My buddy has witnessed a newer generation of mechanics simply slide the clutch off the shaft, dab a few spots and then re-assemble. Might as well not have bothered at all. This particular grease, Part #05083150AA is the only grease to be used on the splines. A photo of the container is included here.

Proper preparation is to clean the shaft splines with solvent and a fine wire brush as well as both sets of female splines on both clutch disc plates. The grease needs to be worked into the splines and then the disc assembly slid back and forth on the shaft to ensure smooth as butta' operation. To not follow the steps as outlined is a waste of time. The second time around, Chrysler will not pay for the repair! Be aware you all get a good dealership with experienced mechanics to do this work. It is imperative!
-John

 

[cdahl383]

Dodge should have put the right grease on there to begin with and should have did a recall on all the affected cars which is just about all 2009-2010 and some 2011's that I've seen.

I'm going to see if I can get this done on my car sometime soon. I have until the end of the year for the powertrain warranty, then it's no longer covered.

It still sounds like the OP's issue is just the trans being cold. The input shaft grease issue and grinding/nibbling when cold shouldn't really be connected I think. Maybe that is part of the problem though, hard to say. If I get my input shaft grease redone maybe it will change the cold shifting behavior of the trans too.

 

[cbronx07]

i have a 2014 and my second does the same. sometimes i just skip and go to third but it seems to be a chally thing.

 

[cdahl383]

You guys are talking just cold right? It shouldn't be doing that when it's warmed up good.

 

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yea only when its cold

 

[Home Theater Guy]

Wow, I feel lucky. I never have any problems at all.

 

[cdahl383]

Yeah that's good if you never get the notchiness. Mine does it only when it's cold, and I mean like winter time cold (30 degrees or lower). So for the first 5-10 minutes I just shift easy and go into neutral sometimes in between shifts. After that I can hammer on it and it shifts just fine.

In the summer when it's warmer out it usually doesn't give me any problems even when first started. I still take it easy on the car for the first 5-10 minutes just to make sure everything is warmed up and stuff.

Yours is a 2012 so it probably has the right input shaft grease on it. For the older models a lot of us probably still have the old incorrect grease, myself included. I'm hoping to get that fixed under warranty sometime this winter/spring. Everyone who's had it done seems to say their shifting is much smoother than before.

 

[JABowders]

Mine tends to not want to go into any gear especially 1st when it is cold.

I was going to lube the pivot points with some fresh white grease, other than that...

Motor on!

 

[cdahl383]

^ Yours might need that input shaft grease starr case performed. I know mine is just starting to get a little sticky now and then. With an 09 you should have the lifetime powertrain warranty, so it should be covered free of charge.