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In the past, I've not been one to work on my cars. I usually let a profesional do it, or it usually turned into a Tim Allen "Tool Time" episode. :str:
But I thought I'd try it myself this time.

It's already turning into a sit com for me! :shakehead: I'm trying to install my catch can, but I can't figure how to get the plastic cover off the engine. What's the best way to do that?
 
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In this pic, is the PCV hose the one in the dead middle of the pic with the flash reflecting off it??
Don't forget the pliers pictured earlier in this thread. :3-smash: They made life so much easier!:cool:
 
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I just rolled the odometer past 3,000 so I thought I'd have a look at the catch can. :wow: As the pic shows there wasn't much more than a wisp of oil from the 1,500 miles I put on the car since the install of the catch can. Just a fine smudge was on my finger when I ran it on the inside of the can.


VernzPics, on Flickr

I don't plan on really looking at it again for another couple thousand miles, or perhaps the next oil change. It will be interesting to see if there is anything then.

How about an update to this? This seems like another solution to a non-problem.
 
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How about an update to this? This seems like another solution to a non-problem.
I'm waiting for it to roll over to 4,500 miles. That'll be a total 0f 3,000 since I first installed it. Almost there, and I'll update then.:thk:

so what are the advantages of running a catch can on a v-6?
Probably minimal, but it seemed like a nice first mod/adventure and enjoyed having done it when all was said and done.:3-smash:
 
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I'm waiting for it to roll over to 4,500 miles. That'll be a total 0f 3,000 since I first installed it. Almost there, and I'll update then.:thk:
Well, as promised, here's my update. My challenger just rolled over past 5,000 miles. So, that would be 3,500 miles since I installed the catch can.






As the pictures show, there was enough oil to cover the bottom of the can. I then poured it into a measure cup, and ended up with perhaps 20-25 ml. Interesting! Is it really worth it to keep this from going back to the engine for a daily driver? I don't know :4-dontknow:, but subjectively it gives me comfort to know that my engine isn't eating its own waste. :ura1:
 
#38 ·
I think it is worth it in my DD...I drain usually at 3500-4000 miles, and get about 1-2 ounces...I run synthetic oil, and I sure as hell don't want that to be burned in the engine, much less becoming a layer of sludge in the intake. For me, I feel it is worth it, plus it looks pretty cool sitting there with the "Moroso" name on it...:smileup::smileup::smileup: BTW, I now have 27.5 k miles on the car.
 
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Guys, remember that in the winter(if you are in a colder part of the country), that condensation can form in the CC. It did to me in VA, I had to empty the can more often. :wow:
 
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I think it is worth it in my DD...I drain usually at 3500-4000 miles, and get about 1-2 ounces...I run synthetic oil, and I sure as hell don't want that to be burned in the engine, much less becoming a layer of sludge in the intake. For me, I feel it is worth it, plus it looks pretty cool sitting there with the "Moroso" name on it...:smileup::smileup::smileup: BTW, I now have 27.5 k miles on the car.
Yep! I feel the same way. I think it is worth it, also. The install was pretty easy once I had the right tools, and not very expensive. I'll be emptying mine at every 4 to 5 thousand miles

Guys, remember that in the winter(if you are in a colder part of the country), that condensation can form in the CC. It did to me in VA, I had to empty the can more often. :wow:
I live in a delta area in California so the weather is pretty moderate, and the car spends the night in my garage. So, I don't personally have too much to worry about. However, it is good solid advice for others not in my situation.
 
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Thought I would revive this thread. What are you seeing from the catch can? Lot's of amounts of oil in it on the 3.6? I know the 5.7 guys always seem to fill up their catch cans in 2-3k miles. Just wondering what you're seeing since I haven't put mine on yet
 
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You tube it , I have no Idea on how to work on cars but I do have a knack for turning wrenches. I changed everything from water pumps to heater coils. there was a few times I went in to a part store with a part I took off and said here I need one of these, ( because I didn't know what it was called) check if the bolt holes line up and I am good. But if I am stumped I always go to youtube for help. I never messed up a car or a motorcycle so it must work. ( always watch more then one to be sure)
 
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Thought I would revive this thread. What are you seeing from the catch can? Lot's of amounts of oil in it on the 3.6? I know the 5.7 guys always seem to fill up their catch cans in 2-3k miles. Just wondering what you're seeing since I haven't put mine on yet
I've only gone 1,500 miles since the last update. I'll probably wait another 1,500 before I check again. I'll post another update then! Sorry it's not quicker, but my car is my DD, and I only have to drive about 5 miles to get to work.:gr_grin:
 
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oil in the catch can upate

My car just went over 8,000 miles. The last time I checked the catch can, I'd just gone over 5,000 miles on the odometer.

Here's a couple picks on what I found in the can. It turns out to be about 2 oz. for the last 3,000.



This pic shows sludgey stuff at the bottom of the can I'm glad didn't go back into the engine!

 
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What is the opinion of the "complete fuel system" cleaners you can put in your gas tank? Which brand do you guys like? If you dont have a catch can, would one of these products help clear out any sludge deposits that would be in the engine?

Just thought I would comment on this! The fuel system cleaners that you put in your gas will clean the "wet" parts of the engine fuel system unless you go with something like Seafoam which instructs you to also open a vacuum line like the brake booster line and allow it to suck about a third of the can in and then immediately turn off engine and allow to set for about 15 to 30 minutes. Then crank the car and run for a while. This coats the intake parts with the seafoam and allowing it to set will disolve this gunk build up and when you crank the car it will pull this mixture into the engine and burn,"Halfway burn it up" and exhaust it as smoke. Depending on how bad your build up is it will be from a little smoke to a billowing smoke cloud. It also states that you can put it in fuel and into the crank case with your oil. Run it a while then change your oil. If you just put a cleaner in your gas it will pass through the fuel injectors directly into the cylinder chambers, bypassing the intake area all together. The catch can will greatly limit this build up in the intake. But I also use seafoam and recommend it to others and have used it on friends and family's vehicles wirth varrying results as far as visual smoking. One car had an O2 sensor fault for 2 days because the vbuild up was so bad. I have also had many comments on how much pep the cars/trucks get afterward. I am a believer in preventative maintenance. A catch can helps to not allow your ride to get this far down so that you dont ever get used to the sluggish behavior of the car to notice a difference if/when you clean out the intake with a cleaner such as seafoam. Just my .02


My car just went over 8,000 miles. The last time I checked the catch can, I'd just gone over 5,000 miles on the odometer.

Here's a couple picks on what I found in the can. It turns out to be about 2 oz. for the last 3,000.



This pic shows sludgey stuff at the bottom of the can I'm glad didn't go back into the engine!


Great pics, I know it feels good knowing that crap isn't in your intake! I have heard a few conversations about people discussing whether it is worth it to get a catch can. seeing the difference it makes to a car when you have to clean the gunk out of an intake as far as performance, gave me reason enough to get one. Anyone can pull off their hose before the throttle and manually hold open the throttle plate and see how much black gunk is behind the plate and coating the intake area. You will notice how clean the out side of the plate is so you know it didn't come in that way and I believe the only other inputs into the intake are the vacuum lines which dont normally pull anything in if properly working and the PCV line which would be better filtered with a Catch can. Thanks for the pics and update!:smileup: Reps coming!
 
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Just thought I would comment on this! The fuel system cleaners that you put in your gas will clean the "wet" parts of the engine fuel system unless you go with something like Seafoam which instructs you to also open a vacuum line like the brake booster line and allow it to suck about a third of the can in and then immediately turn off engine and allow to set for about 15 to 30 minutes. Then crank the car and run for a while. This coats the intake parts with the seafoam and allowing it to set will disolve this gunk build up and when you crank the car it will pull this mixture into the engine and burn,"Halfway burn it up" and exhaust it as smoke. Depending on how bad your build up is it will be from a little smoke to a billowing smoke cloud. It also states that you can put it in fuel and into the crank case with your oil. Run it a while then change your oil. If you just put a cleaner in your gas it will pass through the fuel injectors directly into the cylinder chambers, bypassing the intake area all together. The catch can will greatly limit this build up in the intake. But I also use seafoam and recommend it to others and have used it on friends and family's vehicles wirth varrying results as far as visual smoking. One car had an O2 sensor fault for 2 days because the vbuild up was so bad. I have also had many comments on how much pep the cars/trucks get afterward. I am a believer in preventative maintenance. A catch can helps to not allow your ride to get this far down so that you dont ever get used to the sluggish behavior of the car to notice a difference if/when you clean out the intake with a cleaner such as seafoam. Just my .02





Great pics, I know it feels good knowing that crap isn't in your intake! I have heard a few conversations about people discussing whether it is worth it to get a catch can. seeing the difference it makes to a car when you have to clean the gunk out of an intake as far as performance, gave me reason enough to get one. Anyone can pull off their hose before the throttle and manually hold open the throttle plate and see how much black gunk is behind the plate and coating the intake area. You will notice how clean the out side of the plate is so you know it didn't come in that way and I believe the only other inputs into the intake are the vacuum lines which dont normally pull anything in if properly working and the PCV line which would be better filtered with a Catch can. Thanks for the pics and update!:smileup: Reps coming!
Thanks so much for taking the time to make your well thought out comments. I appreciate that and the reps!
 
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After another 2,000 miles (10,000 total) since last emptying the catch can it measures 45 ml (1.5 oz.).