Test Drove R/T and SP, your thoughts please!

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  1. Greg Karson

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    Drove a SP which was so incredible, never felt anything like it even thou it was for such a short few seconds. Then drove an R/T in Atlanta suburbs which was a mistake. Very little room to open them up with traffic. An obvious difference in the cars was apparent in the suspension of each, with the RT being a more cushy ride. A plus for many of us. Your thoughts?

    I know there are many dedicated SP owners on here but for everyday driving, I don't see where the SP power is usable on city streets. The RT seems to have more than enough with lots of low end torque apparent as well.

    I mention all this above to get your thoughts, owners that know better than me. I am certainly leaning to the R/T, but will probably test drive another one or two. Did not buy, visited 2 dealers, one had quite fair pricing, the second was a jerk and non-competitive. But that is a whole other story isn't it.
     
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    Depends on what you want:

    Scat Pack = massive power, tons of torque, better handling, better braking, simply more performance oriented
    R/T = great power, solid low/mid range torque, good handling, good braking, softer ride, cheaper price tag.

    Basically, the R/T will suit you just fine for regular driving and if you're not after all that speed/power, then the R/T is for you. However, the Scat Pack is a flat out beast, tons of power on tap at any RPM in any gear.

    I would make sure your two test drives are comparable. Drive the R/T around town like normal, then take it out on the highway and open it up a bit. Do the same for the Scat Pack. You'll know your answer then.

    I had a 2010 R/T 6 speed and loved that car. Traded it in last October for a Scat Pack A8 and absolutely love this car too! Two completely different experiences. For me being a performance/drag racing fan the Scat Pack suits me just right. Everyone is different though and you want to be sure the car youre getting is the one you really want.
     
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    I am pleased with my R/T, it is a daily driver. That being said had the Scat Pack been available at the time I bought the R/T I would more than likely bought that. I looked at the SRT but it did not offer enough for me to justify the price, that was in 2010.
     
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    Yep, back in 2009/2010 you had the SE 250hp, R/T 375hp, and SRT 425hp. At that time most SRT's in my area were $10K+ higher than R/T's. Given the 50hp difference I didn't feel the need to spend more for brakes/suspension/50hp difference. But once the SRT Core/Scat Packs came out it was a whole different story. 110hp/75ft-lbs is quite a big difference between the 5.7L and 6.4L.
     
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    Here the difference was closer to 20k more, for me ,way too much for what it had. I added SRT shocks and springs for $500. I added custom leather for $1500. I upgraded to the RER radio for $600. Way less than $20k. Yes I don't have the Brembos but I don't track the car.
     
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    I love my sp. I wouldn't be happier with anything else.
     
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    We've had an '11 RT classic and currently have an '13 SXT Plus Rallye Redline and a '15 Scat Pack. The RT had the softest ride of the 3. The Rallye has the super track pack with the stiffer suspension, and it feels much like the Scat. But either of the 2 are fine, suspension wise around our city of stop and go traffic. The feel is firm but not excessive.

    As far as the confines of the city on being able to "open it up", well certainly, but we experience that with the SXT also.

    We still love the ride with Scatty and the raw muscle car feel vs Rallye or the RT.

    If budget isn't steering your decision, get the Scat. Knowing you've got 500hp on tap at the stomp of the pedal vs the 375hp of the RT just cannot be replaced, IMO.
     
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    Agree with everything Carl said!!! And he always says it better than I do!
     
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    Take the car out of the city on the weekends, enjoy the power, go to the race track and enjoy the power, it's a muscle car enjoy the power. Guess what I'm trying to say is get the Scat Pack :p:cool:. JMO :D
     
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    I had a 2013 RT Classic. I thought it had good power and handled well. It would make a great daily driver. The SP is another animal in itself with an extra 100 hp, better brakes, RTC. IMO therr is more than enough power in an RT to boogie up the road and do some spirited driving. If get the RT and save a few bucks and at some point if this was to become a "fun" car, bolt on more power or get a SP.
     
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    Guys and gals, thanks so much for the honest appraisals on what to buy. I now have a keener insight on what to buy, pros and cons, if any, on each.

    What a great forum supporting these great cars. Will let you know where I go with this.
     
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    You can not go wrong with any of the Challengers IMO...
     
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    I have had both R/T and I have a SP now. They are both great cars. The SP gives you a lot more then the R/T. But I think it boils down to, do you want extra toys or not. Do you want to go fast fast? Or do you want to go stupid Fast Fast?
     
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    Stupid fast!
     
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    So if a Scat is stupid fast, what's that make a Hellcat, double stupid fast?
     
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    Double secret probation fast!
     
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    It really comes down to what you want in a car. Is the power and performance important to you? It it isn't, than an RT is probably the car for you. I own one but I will tell you I will always lust for a Scat Pak or a SRT. If I owned one of those, I'd lust for a Hellcat. If I owned a Hellcat, I'd lust for a Viper................you get the idea. Don't buy the wrong car and regret it if you can afford the Scat Pak.
     
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    Again, your comments are so helpful, I thank you all.

    I got a 2016 RT today after driving both it and the SP. The dealer quoted pricing pushed me to the RT combined with options and color. I think power is relative, coming from a Crown Vic with 250 horses (after some tuning), an RT feels like another world to me. No wonder the cops had to make a change to keep up with the bad guys. I did not want to pay +$7K for the SP as a result. But the SP is all that you described, crazy fast. I will have plenty of opportunities to be ticketed with the RT, no doubt.
    Thanks again for your help, a truely great forum this is.
     
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    The R/T reaches Light speed. The Scat Pack reaches Ludicrous speed. The hellcat goes strait to Plaid!
     
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