It was one of my first mods on the Challenger. It did stiffen up the front quite a bit. As far as install, took about an hour, but I didn't have to remove the cowl. I was able to work around it.
Who has a Speedlogix / Razors Edge front strut bar?
Just wondering who has a Speedlogix / Razors Edge front strut bar on their Challenger? Thinking of getting one since Speedlogix extended their 20% off sale on Razors Edge products through this Sunday.
1.) After installation how did your car handle/steer/corner? Was it a significant difference?
2.) How difficult was the install? Looks like you have to remove the stock bar, remove the lower cowl piece with the pushpins, and reattach the PCM and wiper motor back to the new strut bar afterwards.
Thanks for your input! :smileup:
1.) After installation how did your car handle/steer/corner? Was it a significant difference?
2.) How difficult was the install? Looks like you have to remove the stock bar, remove the lower cowl piece with the pushpins, and reattach the PCM and wiper motor back to the new strut bar afterwards.
Thanks for your input! :smileup:
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Cool, sounds good! So you didn't even have to remove the lower cowl piece? That'd be cool because those little pushpins are a pain.
Were there mounting holes for the PCM and wiper motor or did you have to zip tie them on? I think there is a wiring harness that connects up there as well, I'm assuming just zip tie that as well.
Did the car take corners better after you installed it? Did the car ride any stiffer or not too noticeable?
Were there mounting holes for the PCM and wiper motor or did you have to zip tie them on? I think there is a wiring harness that connects up there as well, I'm assuming just zip tie that as well.
Did the car take corners better after you installed it? Did the car ride any stiffer or not too noticeable?
The wiper motor mounts to the new strut bar. You have to take the rubber gromet from the stock one and reuse it. My car took corners much better but I had also lowered the car. There was not a noticeable difference with ride stiffness to me.
Wish I could help but mine is sitting in the box...just arrived last week. All I can say is it shipped on time as promised and I can"t wait till I am off for Christmas becasue it is going to be "MOD Time !"
I have the front and rear strut braces from speedlogix. It is a noticeable
difference for my car. Stiffened the big boat right up!
difference for my car. Stiffened the big boat right up!
Did front and rear and have to say it was a HUGE change! The car turns like a train on tracks, and now I have NO body roll.
Cool, sounds like a worthwhile mod then, thanks for all your input! I'll probably pull the trigger on the order later tonight before the sale is over.
I'm going to have some time off around Christmas, would be the perfect time to install it!
I'm going to have some time off around Christmas, would be the perfect time to install it!
I just did the REM (Speedlogix) 4 pt front brace and the Petty rear brace this weekend. The difference is noticeable, but only when I'm pushing the car hard through a corner. I don't notice a stiffer ride. I also got the REM subframe connectors but have to wait until next week for an apt at our local muffler shop to weld them in.
BTW, these braces do not reduce body roll. They only stiffen the chassis.
Also, the Speedlogix instructions tell you to remove the wiper arms and then pull the wiper motor with the factory brace. You don't have to do that. Just slide the rubber bushing out of the factory brace and push it back in when you install the new brace. This would have saved me a LOT of time if I had known this from the beginning. What took me the longest on the front brace was the holes for the strut studs were not large enough. I had to dremel them a little larger to slide them over the studs. When I change out my front springs later I'll probably clearance them a little larger again. Last night I got them just big enough but they still aren't an easy removal or install over the threads.
BTW, these braces do not reduce body roll. They only stiffen the chassis.
Also, the Speedlogix instructions tell you to remove the wiper arms and then pull the wiper motor with the factory brace. You don't have to do that. Just slide the rubber bushing out of the factory brace and push it back in when you install the new brace. This would have saved me a LOT of time if I had known this from the beginning. What took me the longest on the front brace was the holes for the strut studs were not large enough. I had to dremel them a little larger to slide them over the studs. When I change out my front springs later I'll probably clearance them a little larger again. Last night I got them just big enough but they still aren't an easy removal or install over the threads.
Cool man thanks for the heads up on the install! I'll keep that in mind when I do mine. I just ordered mine tonight, hopefully it'll get here sometime next week.
Just wanted to follow up on this thread. Finally got around to installing the strut brace today.
For the record I'd like to say the Razor's Edge strut bar is a total PITA to install! It's a great design from an engineering/structural standpoint. But, from an installation and instructions standpoint it sucks! The instructions are poorly written and do not come near to telling you all that is involved with the installation.
The main issue I had with it was the holes for the shock tower bolts did not line up properly on the driver's side, I had to take a drill and drill them out bigger for more clearance so the bar wouldn't damage the threads. Then after that, the stock bolts/washers would not fit back on in a couple spots due to the bar welds coming in contact with the washers. So I had to get my angle grinder out and file the washers down super flat on one side so they'd clear everything and sit down flush so I could tighten them.
In my opinion, Razor's Edge/Speedlogix should supply new washers/bolts to put on their bar that fit properly and not leave it up to the customer to do all this extra work after spending nearly $300 for this bar. They supply new bolts for the bar to mount to the firewall, why not add 6 more bolts/washers with two that are ground down properly to fit? Can't add that much to the total cost of the bar. And it would cost next to nothing to update the instructions and provide more details, steps, and pictures of stuff. If you're not somewhat mechanically inclined and don't have an angle grinder/grinding wheel/drill/dremel then you're out of luck with this bar.
Needless to say, I'm still happy that I purchased it and glad that I was able to overcome some of the obstacles with the installation. I'm impressed with the structure of the bar, the design, and the welds, not to mention the overall weight (very lightweight). Unfortunately I didn't have enough time today to test it out on any corners or anything. I'll have to do that tomorrow on the way to work. Looking forward to some better handling/cornering now!
Overall my conclusion is, if you're somewhat mechanically inclined and have a little more than just basic tools in your garage, then this is a great strut bar. If you're not too mechanically inclined and just have basic tools then I would stick with a bar like the Mopar, Petty's Garage, Drake, etc. Ones that just bolt into the stock bar and connect to the shock towers. Much less involved with the installation on those designs of bars.
For the record I'd like to say the Razor's Edge strut bar is a total PITA to install! It's a great design from an engineering/structural standpoint. But, from an installation and instructions standpoint it sucks! The instructions are poorly written and do not come near to telling you all that is involved with the installation.
The main issue I had with it was the holes for the shock tower bolts did not line up properly on the driver's side, I had to take a drill and drill them out bigger for more clearance so the bar wouldn't damage the threads. Then after that, the stock bolts/washers would not fit back on in a couple spots due to the bar welds coming in contact with the washers. So I had to get my angle grinder out and file the washers down super flat on one side so they'd clear everything and sit down flush so I could tighten them.
In my opinion, Razor's Edge/Speedlogix should supply new washers/bolts to put on their bar that fit properly and not leave it up to the customer to do all this extra work after spending nearly $300 for this bar. They supply new bolts for the bar to mount to the firewall, why not add 6 more bolts/washers with two that are ground down properly to fit? Can't add that much to the total cost of the bar. And it would cost next to nothing to update the instructions and provide more details, steps, and pictures of stuff. If you're not somewhat mechanically inclined and don't have an angle grinder/grinding wheel/drill/dremel then you're out of luck with this bar.
Needless to say, I'm still happy that I purchased it and glad that I was able to overcome some of the obstacles with the installation. I'm impressed with the structure of the bar, the design, and the welds, not to mention the overall weight (very lightweight). Unfortunately I didn't have enough time today to test it out on any corners or anything. I'll have to do that tomorrow on the way to work. Looking forward to some better handling/cornering now!
Overall my conclusion is, if you're somewhat mechanically inclined and have a little more than just basic tools in your garage, then this is a great strut bar. If you're not too mechanically inclined and just have basic tools then I would stick with a bar like the Mopar, Petty's Garage, Drake, etc. Ones that just bolt into the stock bar and connect to the shock towers. Much less involved with the installation on those designs of bars.
Just wanted to post a follow up. I've had the strut bar on for a week now and all I can say is WOW! The car rides/handles/corners so much better now. Definitely worth the $$$ and time spent to install. I also like how it's black and blends in for the most part under the hood. Very happy with it so far, even rides better going straight on down the road over bumpers, etc.
I have to agree... mine did not line up on the drivers side... The push pins are a PITA... the ones they supply in the kit are glossy so they will look different... all that being said it does look good when the job is done.Just wanted to follow up on this thread. Finally got around to installing the strut brace today.
For the record I'd like to say the Razor's Edge strut bar is a total PITA to install! It's a great design from an engineering/structural standpoint. But, from an installation and instructions standpoint it sucks! The instructions are poorly written and do not come near to telling you all that is involved with the installation.
The main issue I had with it was the holes for the shock tower bolts did not line up properly on the driver's side, I had to take a drill and drill them out bigger for more clearance so the bar wouldn't damage the threads. Then after that, the stock bolts/washers would not fit back on in a couple spots due to the bar welds coming in contact with the washers. So I had to get my angle grinder out and file the washers down super flat on one side so they'd clear everything and sit down flush so I could tighten them.
In my opinion, Razor's Edge/Speedlogix should supply new washers/bolts to put on their bar that fit properly and not leave it up to the customer to do all this extra work after spending nearly $300 for this bar. They supply new bolts for the bar to mount to the firewall, why not add 6 more bolts/washers with two that are ground down properly to fit? Can't add that much to the total cost of the bar. And it would cost next to nothing to update the instructions and provide more details, steps, and pictures of stuff. If you're not somewhat mechanically inclined and don't have an angle grinder/grinding wheel/drill/dremel then you're out of luck with this bar.
Needless to say, I'm still happy that I purchased it and glad that I was able to overcome some of the obstacles with the installation. I'm impressed with the structure of the bar, the design, and the welds, not to mention the overall weight (very lightweight). Unfortunately I didn't have enough time today to test it out on any corners or anything. I'll have to do that tomorrow on the way to work. Looking forward to some better handling/cornering now!
Overall my conclusion is, if you're somewhat mechanically inclined and have a little more than just basic tools in your garage, then this is a great strut bar. If you're not too mechanically inclined and just have basic tools then I would stick with a bar like the Mopar, Petty's Garage, Drake, etc. Ones that just bolt into the stock bar and connect to the shock towers. Much less involved with the installation on those designs of bars.
So it's not just me then with the studs not lining up right over the holes. That's good to know, thought I was just being a bonehead or something haha! The push pins weren't too bad, I bought a plastic trim removal kit a while back and just used that (no mar material, like 6-7 different pieces to pull up stuff) and it worked great. Only a couple were hard to get to. I agree the new ones are shinier. I suppose I could go to the dealership and just get 8-10 of them and replace them, wouldn't be that hard to do and wouldn't cost all that much either. But I don't think I care enough to go through all that work haha!
I agree, after all the hassle, it's definitely worth it, car handles/rides so much better and corners great now. I can only imagine how great the car must feel with the rear strut bar on as well. I might do that one in the future at some point too.
I agree, after all the hassle, it's definitely worth it, car handles/rides so much better and corners great now. I can only imagine how great the car must feel with the rear strut bar on as well. I might do that one in the future at some point too.
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