[icecoldmn]

if you care about saving money and it being a daily driver id stick with the RT, it costs more to maintain the scat and it needs premium fuel, a RT is a fine car in its own right

 

[Jazz Blue Scat Pack]

Drive both. The answer to your question will happen.

 

[16ChallengerSP]

I just sold my daily driver 2014 Charger RT, and bought a 2016 Challenger RT SP. Loved the Charger 5.7 but always wanted the extra horsepower of the 6.4. Both are great cars but the SP Challenger is hands down my favorite.

 

[53942]

Scat pack no question at all RT is a turtle

 

[DieselDog]

Hello everyone! Quick backstory. Last year I lost my Chally in an accident. A 2017 Granite RT auto I called Rex. It was pretty sad. Had it since 2017. I had purchased it brand new. I remember driving it off the lot. It was my ride for life. It was a beauty.
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Anyway. I decided to move on to a Toyota and while it saves more gas, it’s just not the same. So I’m in the market for a new Challenger! This being the last year they’re making them, it’s pretty crucial. What I really need to decide on is whether to buy another RT or say to hell with it and buy a Scat Pack. What do you all think?

Would a Scat Pack be more worth it?
How much of a difference would I feel it driving wise compared to the RT?
Has there been any major changes to the RT since the 2017 models?

Thanks!

Whatever you end up doing, you better do it now or soon! Dodge has or soon will be shutting down new orders so if you want to be able to choose exactly what version you want, it’ll have to be soon! If you’re okay with buying one off the lot, you should be good. But the prices are only going to go up as inventory goes down.
I ordered mine last month and is in production now. The salesman told me that I got in just under the wire, so be advised, and good luck with whatever you get! 👍

 

[Deckard]

Scat pack no question at all RT is a turtle

Weird, because unless you've set your car up to run on the track and prefer to drive an automatic that shouldn't be the deciding factor, at least in my opinion. They both sound great, have enough power to light normal tires up and to the casual look the same (amazing and retro cool) and both actually do have a V8 "Hemi"in it. Not sure I've ever heard an R/T referred to as a turtle but it appears the OP had 5 years with his original R/T and got in an accident but hadn't as yet decided to tweak his car to be able to keep up with, I suppose, Scat Packs, had that become an issue (the 5.7 can actually be built as opposed to the factory optimized 6.4). Ultimately it's a personal decision but if it's to be based on some theoretical concept of this car is faster than that, that seems like a long, expensive road to travel and he likely should be looking at Hellcats if he's not hands on and it's a right out of the box solution he's looking for.
I would be more worried about sourcing one with all my preferred options and paint at this point anyway and maybe the decision might be made in part for him.

 

[53942]

Weird, because unless you've set your car up to run on the track and prefer to drive an automatic that shouldn't be the deciding factor, at least in my opinion. They both sound great, have enough power to light normal tires up and to the casual look the same (amazing and retro cool) and both actually do have a V8 "Hemi"in it. Not sure I've ever heard an R/T referred to as a turtle but it appears the OP had 5 years with his original R/T and got in an accident but hadn't as yet decided to tweak his car to be able to keep up with, I suppose, Scat Packs, had that become an issue (the 5.7 can actually be built as opposed to the factory optimized 6.4). Ultimately it's a personal decision but if it's to be based on some theoretical concept of this car is faster than that, that seems like a long, expensive road to travel and he likely should be looking at Hellcats if he's not hands on and it's a right out of the box solution he's looking for.
I would be more worried about sourcing one with all my preferred options and paint at this point anyway and maybe the decision might be made in part for him.

Thats good and well but the RT is the slowest V8 in its class hence turtle. If there is a choice between SP and RT it makes no sense to get the RT.

 

[Slowpoke387]

Drive both. There is no comparison. SP wins hands down. Sure even an SXT has "enough" of everything. But people dont always generally buy these to have "enough" or "usable". Many want a little excess on tap and the 392 is that without spending proportionally more cash for a Hellcat. I've driven both and the 5.7 stock is lackluster by comparison.

 

[RyzRT]

As quoted from the movie the Accountant, "Make a Decision!" Ry

 

[Deckard]

Thats good and well but the RT is the slowest V8 in its class hence turtle. If there is a choice between SP and RT it makes no sense to get the RT.

If the 2023 R/T was available with a 6M in PCP I would likely get that over any version Scat Pack with an A8 ( even moreso if it came with the original Rallye hood ) but that's just me. The Scat Pack has the fourth most HP out of 6 engines of the Challenger models. While I'd hesitate to call it underpowered if I was just buying a car to point out relative power numbers maybe I'd be looking at Hellcats if I was wanting it to be a Dodge. There is always a case to be made one way or the other unless you specify what it is you are actually comparing. Curious what else you think is in the Challengers class, not sure Mustangs or Camaros should qualify...

 

[Klink]

For anyone who has driven both the answer is an absolute no-brainer. Get the 6.4.

 

[Dodgenovice]

Last opportunity, I'd go with the 392. I'm very happy with mine. I do recall test driving the 5.7, 6.1, and 6.4 and I remember feeling that the 5.7 made the 4000 pound car feel sluggish. I'm sure it's fine, but the 392 is just a quick and fast car. I also think if you are looking to hold value these 392s will be more valuable in the future.

But this depends, if you're needing a more affordable practical DD, then the 5.7 makes sense.

And it depends on your finances and ability to pay about 30% more for everything. If you're taking out a loan, factor a 7% or so interest rate on the car is a back breaker.

 

[cdahl383]

Scat Pack for sure if you can swing it. You get a lot more for your money IMO.

The guy above that says the Scat Pack isn't any faster is wrong. It has 110hp more in stock form. My Dad has a R/T and I have a Scat Pack. Stock he ran 12.9-13.1 in the 1/4. Stock I ran 11.8-12.1 in the 1/4 mile. Basically a full second in the 1/4 mile. The Scat Pack is significantly faster. It has better brakes, better suspension, more power, etc. You get what you pay for.

The R/T is an awesome car as well. I had one years ago myself and loved it. But the 6.4L definitely has a lot more power than the 5.7L.

If the R/T fits your budget better that's the one to get. It'll be better on gas and it's still plenty powerful. But if you can fit the Scat Pack in your budget then I'd go for that.

 

[RyzRT]

Has there been any major changes to the RT since the 2017 models?

As far as the R/T 5.7 I can at least answer this question, I own a 2015 R/T 5.7 A8, the best 0 ~ 60 time I could get out of it in a perfect situation was 5.6 seconds. My wife and I rented a bone stock 2019 R/T 5.7 A8 to take a trip to Mississippi, the best 0 ~ 60 time I got out of it was 4.9 seconds. I have seen others posting their times with I think a 2021 getting a 4.8 second time, so there has definitely been improvements in that type of performance since 2017.

Now as far as major changes since 2017 I would guesstimate and say no, because all Dodge had to do to change the 0 ~ 60 time was adjust the stock tune a little with an updated ECM (Engine Control Module), to reach those new times, they would not have had to do a thing to the mechanical aspect of the 5.7 engine, just adjust the factory ECM tune.

 

[Uncle AL]

...all you guys forgot about "specialty insurance" offered by American Classics, Hagerty, and a host of others, etc...I bought my 2010 Challenger in 2009 and still have her...my average yearly cost of insurance was under $340 a year...I am pissed that they just raised me to $390 a year due to the claims in NY (democrat hell)....true, I am limited to 6,000 miles a year, but I am retired, still getting laid, still drinking bourbon, still driving a Challenger, and enjoying the hell out of life ! Can you beat that ?

 

[Control1]

I've had 3 R/Ts since 2012 and enjoyed them all. This summer I got a 2022 SP widebody and have been very happy with it. I use it as a daily driver and smile every time I crank it up. I like the faster acceleration and response with the SP. But everyone is different, check it out with some test drives. Hard to go wrong with either.

 

[Lisa916]

RT for me hands down. Best DD I ever owned. I owned a Scat and was never happy with it. The RT isnt trying to be fast although it is quick. The Scat is trying to be fast and its not and over priced imo. And unless u get the SRT package it doesnt brake well.

I felt the RT was quicker just not faster. To me the Scat sounded like a truck trying to make it up a hill smh. Just wasnt for me. Didnt handle well, made little power and didnt brake well for the money. Id go RT all day long.

Plus I ran 87 octane with it vs. 93 octane the 392 recommends I guess one could get away with 91 tho. I see no point in 93 octane in a DD. They both do the same time on the street when u floor them.

I drove the RT for 16 years as Police. When I got into the Scat is was NOT any faster. It really wasnt! Watch these videos and decide for urself...... They both are neck and neck.

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I have a Scat Pack widebody Challenger and a Charger RT. My SP is way quicker and faster. The RT is a perfect daily driver, which is why I bought it, but there's no comparison in my opinion. Since I drive both regularly, I guess I don't understand what you mean unless you have a modded RT. Not sure what the SRT package is but 'm glad you're happy with what you have. They're all great cars. 😊

 

[Lisa916]

If it's not going to be your DD, then def go with a SP. WB is worth the extra $. I originally bought an RT and regretted it so much I sold it a few months later and ordered my SPWB. Best decision I ever made. I recently bought a Charger RT for my daily. I have a friend who was in mgmt so luckily so I get great deals. Learn from my mistake and get the SP!

 

[climberccm]

Hello everyone! Quick backstory. Last year I lost my Chally in an accident. A 2017 Granite RT auto I called Rex. It was pretty sad. Had it since 2017. I had purchased it brand new. I remember driving it off the lot. It was my ride for life. It was a beauty.
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Anyway. I decided to move on to a Toyota and while it saves more gas, it’s just not the same. So I’m in the market for a new Challenger! This being the last year they’re making them, it’s pretty crucial. What I really need to decide on is whether to buy another RT or say to hell with it and buy a Scat Pack. What do you all think?

Would a Scat Pack be more worth it?
How much of a difference would I feel it driving wise compared to the RT?
Has there been any major changes to the RT since the 2017 models?

Thanks!

your question can’t be answered by any on this forum. All any of us can do is give you our opinion. I like performance so a Scat Pack wide body is what I’d buy for the fatter tires, engine, brakes and other performance packages it might have. If performance is lower on your list of desire then the RT is a great car. I recommend you go online and build your car based on your wants and needs. Build one of each and pick the one that meets what you want in your challenger. Good luck!

 

[donc63]

Hello everyone! Quick backstory. Last year I lost my Chally in an accident. A 2017 Granite RT auto I called Rex. It was pretty sad. Had it since 2017. I had purchased it brand new. I remember driving it off the lot. It was my ride for life. It was a beauty.
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Anyway. I decided to move on to a Toyota and while it saves more gas, it’s just not the same. So I’m in the market for a new Challenger! This being the last year they’re making them, it’s pretty crucial. What I really need to decide on is whether to buy another RT or say to hell with it and buy a Scat Pack. What do you all think?

Would a Scat Pack be more worth it?
How much of a difference would I feel it driving wise compared to the RT?
Has there been any major changes to the RT since the 2017 models?

Thanks!

Hello everyone! Quick backstory. Last year I lost my Chally in an accident. A 2017 Granite RT auto I called Rex. It was pretty sad. Had it since 2017. I had purchased it brand new. I remember driving it off the lot. It was my ride for life. It was a beauty.
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Anyway. I decided to move on to a Toyota and while it saves more gas, it’s just not the same. So I’m in the market for a new Challenger! This being the last year they’re making them, it’s pretty crucial. What I really need to decide on is whether to buy another RT or say to hell with it and buy a Scat Pack. What do you all think?

Would a Scat Pack be more worth it?
How much of a difference would I feel it driving wise compared to the RT?
Has there been any major changes to the RT since the 2017 models?

Thanks!

I traded my R/T in 6 Months ago for a 392 Shaker mostly because I knew the end was near for the Challengers and Chargers. Not a great idea. For one thing the 392 from the seat of the pants feel is just not that much faster. Yeah I think the RT is limited to 150 or so and the 392 will do around 180 but realistic who drives that fast? and where in the USA are you going to do that? Also maybe you will cut a few ticks of the 60 time and the 1/4 mile maybe but again do you do that on regular basis? The one factor that sticks out the most is mpg as in 14mpg average for the 392 and that is mixed city and hi-way. If just city single digits. Insurance I don't know about I am old and have a driveway full of cars and I am constantly buying and selling cars so it pretty much stays the same but my personal property tax went up after purchase. To me the pros of owning a 392 over the 345 is just not there. This is just my opinion but I have a lifetime of driving and owning some of the fastest cars out there American and European and the Scat/Shaker/T/A moniker is more show and less go than anything again else but that is just my opinion.