What's added? Nitros? KUDOS!

 

Nitrous, meth injection, 364 rear, supercharger, DRs.

 

Nitrous, meth injection, 364 rear, supercharger, DRs.

Sorry I meant what changed between the 12.42 and the 11.92? That's half a second. That's Great! :smileup:

 

That's dam quick, congrats...:smileup:

 

Oh, a better SC with a smaller pulley. I can even go smaller

Here are the vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feg69_9SKGo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wphQXlXeVOs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Congrats on the new record.

 

 

Congratulations!
I have a question for you with no disrespect meant.
I am new here so this may already be know,but why did you pick the six cylinder model to make into a drag racer.
The same effort and money spent on mods on a V8 model would surely have you going quicker in the 1/4 mile.A quick 1/4 mile is the end goal,isn't it?
Don't the mods like superchargers,nitrous etc. cost about the same (or close enough) for either the V8 or the 6 cylinder model?
I hope this is not a stupid question.I am just curious.

 

Congratulations!
I have a question for you with no disrespect meant.
I am new here so this may already be know,but why did you pick the six cylinder model to make into a drag racer.
The same effort and money spent on mods on a V8 model would surely have you going quicker in the 1/4 mile.A quick 1/4 mile is the end goal,isn't it?
Don't the mods like superchargers,nitrous etc. cost about the same (or close enough) for either the V8 or the 6 cylinder model?
I hope this is not a stupid question.I am just curious.

No it's not a stupid question and I get asked about it all the time. Especially from RT and SRT8 guys.

It's actually cheaper and I have a prime example. It cost me $5800 to do:
Tidal Wave Stage 3 Supercharger kit
Dual exhaust with VX series muffler
364 Rear
3200 Edge Stall Converter
Snow Stage 3 Meth injection system
NX Mainline 2000 nitrous kit plus a NX fuel rail adapter
Mickey Thompson DR's with 18x9 cobra wheels
Dyno runs, 71mm TB and predator tuner.

I did some of the installs myself. The car cost me 20k. It was used and had 35k miles on it.

So I'm in it 26k. I can't find an RT or SRT that can go that fast for 26k with less than 50k miles on it sooooooo....

Here is a Charger RT forum member somewhere who is only running 11:5's (which I've done some more modding that cost me $50 and I'll run this Friday and I should be 11:5's) and with the power add ons and the cost of his car, I think I have come out, WAY AHEAD!

If you could add up the power add ons in this car just to get to 11:5 on a Hemi, it's far more than what I paid. Just add up the HP bolt ons in his build. Not anything else and you tell me.

Charger R/T with Road & Track .--.-- .11.5 @ 119
.
PWR 11:1 426 / Apache Heads / Fr-240 Cam / MM Ported Intake / Arrington 90mm TB / C&L CAI / ARH headers & catted mids / Corsa / Mopar TCM / FTI 3800 TC / Paramount Valve Body
Joelvan Rad / Police Oil Cooler / HalfFast B&M Tranny Cooler / CTP DS Loop / SLP Line Lock / Getrag 3.73 / Brembos / Hotchkis Sways / 20" Forged Alcoas / 275 Nittos

 

So now I ask you, (and don't take this as being sarcastic or anything because it's not), how much was your car ? ....and even if you add 6k to it it may get you in the 11's but, 6k plus 35k is much more than what I paid in total. Yeah, your resale value is higher and you running 11's is realization of the norm. Heck, everyone at the tracks I go to think mine has a Hemi in it because of the times it runs. But when the announcer says V6 or when I tell them it's a V6 and they see the badging on the car as a V6, that's when the jaws really drop and heads get scratched. I know, it's a novelty. But I find it more interesting than the norm.

So now let the blasting begin!

 

So now I ask you, (and don't take this as being sarcastic or anything because it's not), how much was your car ? ....and even if you add 6k to it it may get you in the 11's but, 6k plus 35k is much more than what I paid in total. Yeah, your resale value is higher and you running 11's is realization of the norm. Heck, everyone at the tracks I go to think mine has a Hemi in it because of the times it runs. But when the announcer says V6 or when I tell them it's a V6 and they see the badging on the car as a V6, that's when the jaws really drop and heads get scratched. I know, it's a novelty. But I find it more interesting than the norm.

So now let the blasting begin!

No hater here! I really admire what you've done!!!!

 

Thanks Bad. A few V8 guys do. But that's ok. I'm in a car I love and I'm the dummy that modded a V6. Life goes on...........

 

Congrats on the new PB! 11's is haulin no matter what kind of car/engine you've got! 11's in a V6 Challenger is very impressive!

I like seeing something different like this. I'm sure people are in disbelief at the track too when you pop the hood and its not a Hemi or some crazy aftermarket crate engine.

I'm trying to get into the high 11's myself in my Nova, but it looks like I'll need a better converter for that. I see you got an Edge converter that stalls around 3200 RPM? How do you like it? Does it perform well on the street in normal driving?

I think what you've done is pretty cool. Its a Challenger, all Challengers are cool in my book.

I'm not the biggest fan of those ricer imports at the track myself, but when you see one of them crank out a 10 or 11 second ET out of a little 4 banger, it really is impressive. Maybe thats not what I'd do personally, but its still fast. 11 seconds from a V8, V6 or 4 banger is still fast either way you look at it.

Your car is far from one of those goofy looking things though, its a sweet looking Challenger with a fast little V6 in it, so I'd be proud of that! Haha!

 

So now I ask you, (and don't take this as being sarcastic or anything because it's not), how much was your car ? ....and even if you add 6k to it it may get you in the 11's but, 6k plus 35k is much more than what I paid in total. Yeah, your resale value is higher and you running 11's is realization of the norm. Heck, everyone at the tracks I go to think mine has a Hemi in it because of the times it runs. But when the announcer says V6 or when I tell them it's a V6 and they see the badging on the car as a V6, that's when the jaws really drop and heads get scratched. I know, it's a novelty. But I find it more interesting than the norm.

So now let the blasting begin!

I don't give $*!^ what people have under the hood - when your running 11's, it's just that - a car that's running 11's....gotta respect a car that produces results in the 1/4 no matter what it is......show me one person out there who would refuse the keys if offered to them!!???!!
Side note: I'll bet the weight difference between the 8 & 6 helps the cause too - these beasts look awesome but they're heavy.........

 

Bro...you're a full second faster than me. You'll get no hatred from this end of the yard.

But I'm still purplier than you!

 

The 3200 stall feels normal in daily driving. It's only in use when you're launching that you can tell.

 

I found another example. A Challenger SRT. I deleted a LOT of mods that weren't HP related but some of these aren't either. Just take into consideration how much money to get from being a 12:9 car to a 12:0 car. That's a lotta dough or he can't drive.


*KENNE BELL BILLET SUPERCHARGER 2.8 LC 9psi
*1/4 MILE-12.05 SEC @ 120 MPH 60ft 2.0sec
*AIRLIFT DUAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
*CORSA DUAL CAT BACK EXHAUST
*180 THERMOSTAT
*ELECTRIC DUAL RACE READY CUTOUTS
*KOOKS 1 7/8" LONG TUBE HEADERS W/CATS
*ARRINGTON #607 CAM, PUSH RODS & SPRINGS
*DUAL SIDE CUTOUT EXHAUST PIPES
*ZEX COMPLETE DUAL NITROUS SYSTEM W/REMOTE
*MR NORMS BOOST BOX
*HOTCHKIS SWAY BARS
*PREDATOR
*BUGATTI FUEL PUMP
*GEARSTAR 4000 T.C. TRANS

 

^^^ I don't know who's mod list that is, but with that setup, he should be running WAY faster than 12.0. Heck...Lisa's black 09 R/T went 11.69 with just headers, catback, tune and 125 shot of spray. That was in an automatic car with stock 3.06 rear and stock transmission.

 

He is in the August ROTM on CT. HOTHEMI I believe is his SN.

 

He is in the August ROTM on CT. HOTHEMI I believe is his SN.

I think you hit the nail on the head a couple of posts up with his driving ability.

 

I don't want to get into a big wizzing contest over V8 vs V6 but if you look in the 11 second club on this site there are a number of R/T's that are running 11's with essentially just a 100 to 125 shot of nitrous and some drag radials.

That guys SRT should be faster with the mods listed but there are so many factors that go into racing from track prep to altitude to drivers skills to the track that you race at, so who knows for sure.

 

Well...if he ran at the track on those 22s, that would account for the 12.0. I can legitimately see losing a full second or more running on those. No way would I run at the track on my 22s and expect to clock another 12.9

 

The guy running 12.05 at 120 mph definitely has more room left to drop his ET for sure. That mph should be a mid to low 11 second ET easily. His 60 ft is only a 2.0. Either he is bogging bad off the line or spinning a lot off the line. My guess is spinning with those big rims and probably low profile tires with zero traction. If he got his 60 ft time down into the 1.7's where it probably should be or possibly lower, that's an easy 11.5 or low 11 second car in good air.

A lot of guys post their times up and you wonder why they're so much better than yours, then you see they had a -750 ft DA that day compared to your 2200 ft DA. Obviously DA, altitude, track conditions, and driver skill all come into play when comparing cars at different tracks at different times.

Sometimes its just driver skill. I'm not the best with driving a stick, so the best I could do was a 13.8, when I know the car is capable of better ET's than that. Not with me in the car though, haha! I'm better with an auto.

I've seen quite a few R/T's and SRT's in the 11's without too many crazy things done to them, mostly autos. Most auto guys can break into the 12's pretty easily with good traction. Add a supercharger and you get low 12's to high 11's. Add some spray on top of that and a better converter and you should get into the mid 11's or quicker if everything is working right and the track prep is good.

There is a guy on here or another forum (cant remember) that ran a 12.25 with his bone stock SRT8 auto on street tires and everything, he just had really good air (negative DA or close to 0, cant remember).

You can buy an old undesirable 70's or 80's car for cheap, throw in a roll cage, build up a big block, throw a big carb on it, a high stall, deep gears, massive slicks, and run 11's or 10's for much less than any of us have spent on our Challengers, V6 or V8. You just have to do what you like. If you like your V6 Challenger and want to make it fast, then go for it, I think thats cool. There will always be guys that are faster, guys that went faster for cheaper, etc. Big deal. Do you really want to drive around in a late 70's Chevy Vega with a 496 big block that gets 8 mpg to run low 11's for $15K or would you rather run high 11's in your modern Challenger with a V6 for $26K? Its all preference.

My buddy has an 84 Cutlass with a built 496 big block, TH400 trans, 4:10 gears, big slicks, no interior, fiberglass hood, runs high 10's on motor and high 9's on spray and he can drive it on the street on pump gas. Probably has $15-$18K in the car. But it doesn't get 25 mpg on the highway, and its a pain to drive on the street.

The bottom line is, most cars can go pretty fast if you spray them or run forced induction with enough boost and get decent traction. Whether its a V8 or a V6, who gives a crap, if you're in the 11's or 12's your car is fast. Its even cooler if you can drive it to the track and back without hauling it there on a trailer.

I'm a fan of any type of Challenger, V6 or V8, SE/RT/SRT, etc. Doesn't matter, they're all cool in my book. If you can make them go faster for not that much, thats even better!

Your high 11 second V6 car is definitely cool!

 

Carl, you forgot the AC part! LOL!

Have a great weekend everyone!